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Si Wooldridge says...
"Less than a third voted to Remain, so remember that also"
Absolutely, I've never claimed anything different. I just use the actual numbers to demonstrate that the vast majority the 'out means out' bunch constantly rattle on about was anything but.


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"back in the EU before we even left it."
Kind of an oxymoron there Bandi, but i get your point. Thing is, even if May's abysmal deal got through Parliament next week (it really, really won't) then it would be at least another 10 years of furthur negotiation before we're fully out. It's because of this that I still maintain that while most people who voted leave did so due to their own conviction, they actually had no idea of what the process entailed at all. I'll wager most of them didn't have a clue as to what Article 50 even was


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Well Pete-MK, if you want to go technical 

We have just won a concession and bear with me here, the provisions of standing order 24B should not apply to any motion pursuant to section 13 of the 2018 European Union (withdrawal) Act

What the *^^* does that mean?
read on....

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/05/parliament-taking-back-control-brexit-may-defeats-commons-coalition

Personally I welcome this a lot. For some reason May seems to have taken on this task herself, even though she's still a caretaker Prime Minister to most. I don't want her solely responsible for negotiating our withdrawl from the EU, because as far as I know, she's completely unqualified to do so, and thus far, this has proven to be true.

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The first time in history a UK government has been found in contempt of parliament.

As expected, UK can unilaterally revoke brexit, even if EU don't want us to. This is a very big deal.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46481643

Also this:

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Personal opinion.
I think a second vote is inevitable.

Which probably will involve revoking article 50.
On the EU's side I believe they have often been flexible with deadlines, effectively stopping the clock.
Substitutions (May), injury time, (sectioning for JRM) etc.

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This item was edited on Monday, 10th December 2018, 09:39

I still suspect May will lose the vote, resign, Tories will pick another leader, we'll crash out of the EU with no deal, no people's vote.


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I reckon TM is going to postpone the vote - has ordered an emergency cabinet meeting.

Unlikely to get 'no deal' as parliament indicated that it has final say on this option with large majority against this absolutely reckless idea.

s*** still going to hit fan in one way or another

Edit: oh and btw, TM's govt quietly threw a lot of money and barristers at trying to stop us being able to revoke A50. So that's our govt trying to tie it's own hands and take away our own sovereignty...

This item was edited on Monday, 10th December 2018, 11:19

Nope - cancel the postponement, vote still going ahead, apparently.

Arrrghh!! , ignore that, govt. just bullshitting again. It looks like they ARE going to postpone vote...

This item was edited on Monday, 10th December 2018, 12:25