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No education grant for me. The reason?

washu (Competent) posted this on Wednesday, 8th November 2006, 11:54

I applied to be a Japanese teacher, was accepted on the course and fully registered. Circumstances dictated that I had to delayed the start of the part time, internet based course until February. This was accepted by the University and everything was going well. I then enquired about the Secondary School Subject Short (or something) scheme which meant that I would have received 6 grand for doing this course (they need Maths, Science and Language teachers).
Keeping up so far? Good. Now, AFTER all the documentation went though, I was ONLY THEN informed that, because I wasn`t in the country and not actually doing the course, that I Had to wait until round 2 of funding and only then would they know if they had any money left to give! I was a bit peed at this but thought I would be OK. I emailed the other day and they told me that 11 people had applied and there was nothing left!
How angry am I?! In ALL the documents I was given, it states that I can get this money. In the application for, I fulfil ALL the categories need to apply. Yet the Uni tells me to it obvious I couldn`t apply coz I wasn`t in the UK and had not started the course despite being registered! Its and on-line course and I can take up to 5 years to do if if I wanted to.
The best bit? It was the ONLY Uni in England to do this course and it was also, to add the icing to the cake, in its FINAL YEAR which means I cant just apply again.
I have sent an email, but I expect nothing from it. My future has just fallen away even more....

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The original 42pcenter MD (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 8th November 2006, 12:44

So, you want my hard earned tax and you don`t even live here?

Dr 42%er


It`s not easy being different. It`s not easy being cool....but somehow I manage....

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thezafiraman (Competent) posted this on Wednesday, 8th November 2006, 14:27

Well put.He wants six grand for a course that he might start in Feb.,and doesn`t even live in this country.

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The original 42pcenter MD (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 8th November 2006, 15:35

Not having a go as such. Just want clarifacation that that is the case. If it is so, convince me why you should get the grant.

Dr 42%er


It`s not easy being different. It`s not easy being cool....but somehow I manage....

RE: No education grant for me. The reason?

washu (Competent) posted this on Wednesday, 8th November 2006, 23:59

Not that I need to convince you but, FYI, I am British and just happen to be out of the country when the course started as I was working in Japan. The government have a lack of teachers in 3 subjects and desperately need people to enter the public, rather than private, education system. Most Maths, Science and Language teacher would get far more cash doing that. I, on the other hand, don`t want to be part of a private system being working class myself. Just because people are rich, it DOES NOT mean they deserve a "better" education. I have no house to live in back home, no savings and no possessions since my parents divorced. My plans in life were blown away when I was f***ed over by my ex. The money would have enabled me to do the course and educate kids that deserve equal treatment and a fair chance in life.
Is that good enough for you all?
PS: I pay taxes too. Its not like you will be personally financing my education. If you have ever struggled for money in life or to get through years of Uni education, you`d know how hard it is when you cant work full time to finance yourself for food or clothes!

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Choagy (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 9th November 2006, 00:29

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FYI, I am British
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I pay taxes too.


Not quite the same as stating "I reside in the United Kingdom and am a tax payer"

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Its not like you will be personally financing my education.


FFS as a taxpayer ALL payers in the U.K. ARE contributing matey.

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If you have ever struggled for money in life or to get through years of Uni education, you`d know how hard it is when you cant work full time to finance yourself for food or clothes!


Brought up in a scheitty tenament building in Falkirk. Wore cast off clothes yet my parents managed to keep us fed. FFS cry me a river mate.


Choagy FFCUK the SPL :)

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Opposable_Thumb_Envy (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Thursday, 9th November 2006, 03:46

Hi Washu - if you were banking on this money I can appreciate that this news must be very disheartening. That said it does seem that you have only a partial understanding of the Secondary Subject Shortage Scheme. The most important point is that it simply is not a grant - it's a means tested hardship scheme; in exceptional circumstances this fund can pay up to 6k however there is absolutely no entitlement to that sum. If the university guidance notes do not make this clear, or indeed any wider eligibility criteria, it would be legitimate to raise this with the university. The general case is that access to funds and lower 'home' fees are dependent on nationality and upon three years residence in the EU.

You mention that your course is part-time for up to five years which suggests that it is an undergraduate course. If that is the case you now find yourself in a similar position to many others trying to self-finance their part-time degrees. I agree that combining work and study is far from ideal, however, would an internet-based course not offer greater flexibility to do enough work to pay the bills? Of course you may have been planning on working anyway to pay the higher oversees fees. I hope you can find a way get on a teacher training course at some point, even if it involves coming back to GB for some less virtual training.

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washu (Competent) posted this on Thursday, 9th November 2006, 14:23

As I mentioned before, I just happened to be out of the country when the course started. I have lived in the UK for about 25 years with 5 years out.
In ALL the info I was given, NOWHERE does it state that, in order to do an internet course, I had to be in England. The internet exists outside of England so I thought there would be no problem until they told me AFTER I had delayed the course start date. I would have been willing to start in September IF they had told me about the funding.
I know it is means tested but, considering I dont have a home to live in, no saving and no possessions in the UK, I thought I would have got it.
I have emailed my complaints to the Uni, with no reply yet. So, for you arses out there that think all students drink and do no work etc, kiss my arse! I have battled more than you can imagine to get this far. Education, it seems, is to be reserved for the rich. Why should we have to pay for what should be free? If someone told you you would have to pay a fortune to educate your kids, would you be happy to cough up> I dont think so.

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mattwhite1 (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 9th November 2006, 14:48

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No education grant for me. The reason?


Because you are a berk! 8)



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badboybez (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 9th November 2006, 15:23

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So, for you arses out there that think all students drink and do no work etc, kiss my arse!

I do think that and THEY do just that :D


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