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BNP leader bailed

Choagy (Elite) posted this on Tuesday, 14th December 2004, 22:51

I do not wish to appear supportive of this party but FFS if the basis of the CPS case is that the leader of the BNP said "Islam is an evil religion" then just how in the name of f*** can the CPS justify this.
How on earth can this be classed as a race/hate crime ?

Old Captain Hook stated many many times and quite openly in public that "it is every Muslims right / duty to kill Jews. So nothing sinister there then eh .

Why did it take so long for the CPS to prosecute Abu Hamzah yet it takes mere weeks to prosecute/charge the leader of the BNP. Even then they only managed a charge after a secret BBC filming of a meeting of members of the BNP.

The application of the Anti racism laws racism in this country are a sick, politically correct nonsense.
Yes we must have laws that state quite openly and loudly that racism will not be tolerated. BUT FFS how about these very same laws being used to charge the fundamentalists of certain religions when they openly espouse violence to not only the jewish faith but the wish that Israel is wiped from the map of the world.

Choagy FFCUK The SPL :)

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MildMan (Competent) posted this on Tuesday, 14th December 2004, 23:18

Good speech choagy, I agree with you.

Your views/frustrations are shared by many I reckon, but aired by few in fear of being misunderstood.
The over politically correct may accuse you sympathising with the BNP...when in fact you are simply making a point about the hypocrisy and double standards we seem to have in the UK about race issues.

The BBC air a secretly filmed documentary about the BNP and it made headline news everywhere, followed by arrests etc...two nights after the BNP film was shown, a similar documentary was shown quoting non-whites saying whites should keep out of `their` territory and how in 5 yrs times Islam will rule the UK...guess what...no arrests, no coverage...nothing. Both views are abhorrent, but we only see a reaction against the BNP, why?

Neil

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RJS (undefined) posted this on Tuesday, 14th December 2004, 23:29

Didn`t Rowan Atkinson lead a group of people to the House of Commons or something, to demonstrate against government plans to make it an offence to criticise religions or something?


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visfix (Competent) posted this on Tuesday, 14th December 2004, 23:38

When I am reborn, as is the custom with us Buddhists, it will be as a more enlightened being. I will be one rung closer to achieving Nirvana, and eternal bliss.

So, basically, I`m coming back as a disabled, lesbian, single mother of nine, from an ethnic minority, who is unable to work as the visa application hasn`t been approved yet!

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Zovirax (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 15th December 2004, 01:14

The night before Ron Atkinson said the N word on TV I was listening to a CD and the N word was used time after time,the fact that I can buy this CD in any record shop on the high street tells me that big Ron was unfairly treated.

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andyguias (Competent) posted this on Wednesday, 15th December 2004, 02:19

Well it`s Typical double standards like this which gives the BNP what it needs the surpport of the down trodden!

I have no opinion on the BNP. It`s up to each person to decide who to vote for!

Though it`s really funny that every time they come down on the BNP it get`s more popular!
Everytime they charge some one for hate crimes it gives the BNP voters!

Funnier still that those that ask for the BNP to be charged and arrested, making them martyers! Are the ones who hate them the most!

If you just ignored them they would go away... BUT NO! lets Nik Nik and get him on the Telly!

lol

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happy (Competent) posted this on Wednesday, 15th December 2004, 06:49

This gov has been very inconsistent and do pander to the minorities (BUT not BNP). I for one think religion is the root of the problem. BNP are just using the fear factor to get more popular. There is a wave of polerised views since 911, just see whats happening in Holland.

Live and let live

If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything BTTF

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Boiledbrain (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 15th December 2004, 07:47

Fully agree with your statement Choagy you are absolutely right about "hook hand", he should have been kicked up the arse out of this country ages ago, the guy stirs up more racial hatred than any BNP member could ever do, its funny in this country but people are scared to say that anyone who is an ethnic minority and have racist motivations are a racist . the media in this country are the worst, if they say "oh mr hookhand is a racist + should be kicked out ", they are terrified of then being labelled as racist themselves, the country`s gone mad.

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RJS (undefined) posted this on Wednesday, 15th December 2004, 12:49

Quote:
The night before Ron Atkinson said the N word on TV I was listening to a CD and the N word was used time after time,the fact that I can buy this CD in any record shop on the high street tells me that big Ron was unfairly treated.

Oh well that makes it entirely okay then, clearly Ron wasn`t being racist and using possibly one of the most offensive words to the black community that exists, he was just being hip with the kids.

There is a world of difference between the black rap community taking an offensive word that has a long and violent history of being used oppressively against them, bastardising it by changing the spelling slightly, and then using it for their own means...

...and a white man of a generation that was around using that word to oppress black people, using it to describe a black player in an offensive manner.

The whole point of this thread is that the BNP leader (who I would describe as nothing less than a racist c*** btw) has been allegedly charged by the CPS for describing a faith as evil, not a race.

The fact that it actually isn`t, and that the catholic faith has a longer bloodier record is immaterial. Choagy rightly, imho, points out that it is ridiculous that this is considered a race/hate crime, when any race can be any faith. :p

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kang (Competent) posted this on Wednesday, 15th December 2004, 19:59

Quote:
I have no opinion on the BNP. It`s up to each person to decide who to vote for!


The trouble is that if the BNP got in, there would no longer be that free choice.

I think there are times when `positive discrimination` is no bad thing, but I agree, when it comes to peddling hate, then all protagonists should be treated equally severely.

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