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Seymour Scagnetti (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Monday, 3rd March 2003, 14:12

I want to but this and the best price I can find is £79.99 at Play. Since this is over £18.00 it is likely that I will cop for duty when it arrives. Can anyone work out the total I would have to pay? Same box set costs £94.95 at WHSmith.

Thanks

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cynic (Elite) posted this on Monday, 3rd March 2003, 16:21

Amazon have it for £81.99 and if you select super saver delivery which means an extra few days wait then theres no delivery charge.

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John Howells (Competent) posted this on Monday, 3rd March 2003, 21:02

"... the best price I can find is £79.99 at Play. Since this is over £18.00 it is likely that I will cop for duty ..."

Happily this is not the case. For more expensive R2 disks Play use a "duty paid at source" method, so that what you see is what you pay.

But note that this does *NOT* apply to R1 disks, and Play will warn you at the time of ordering that duty might have to be paid.

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Seymour Scagnetti (Mostly Harmless) posted this on Tuesday, 4th March 2003, 08:30

Thanks guys, put my mind at rest.

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enemyonpc (Elite) posted this on Tuesday, 4th March 2003, 12:29

Thought there no Duty on any R2 disks no matter what the price of it was, could be and probably am wrong though.

Quite fancy this myself but i think i`ll wait til play have more stock.

Bryan

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John Howells (Competent) posted this on Wednesday, 5th March 2003, 19:43

"Thought there no Duty on any R2 disks no matter what the price of it was"

The region of the disk is irrelevant, duty (really only VAT on DVD Video`s) is due on any disk imported to the UK from a non-EU source. Jersey (and Guernesy, and the Isle Of Man) are outside the EU, so a disk imported from there is as liable to duty as one from the US or Canada or Australia.

However, there is an allowance (currently £18 for the cost of the goods alone) below which duty is waived. For disks more than £18 duty is due on the cost of the goods plus the postage and packing. But in the case of Play they use a "duty paid at source" mechanism for R2 disks, as previously noted, so there will be no further duty due on R2 disks from them.

For an import from an EU country there should be no liability for further duty, as VAT will already have been paid, either at the rate of the supplier country (for smaller companies), or at the rate of the recipient country (for larger companies, with a turnover of more than about 100K euro, such as Amazon in France).

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Spiny Norman (Elite) posted this on Friday, 7th March 2003, 00:34

John


Don`t think your correct in saying that goods from Jersey are dutyable.

see section 2.3 of notice 143 - link here :- http://www.hmce.gov.uk/forms/notices/143.htm#P56_2816

Jersey, etc., are `Special Territories` which are attached to full member states - although they exist fiscally outside the EU. Goods such as DVDs, are only liable VAT - Customs Duty is not liable (but Excise is payable on booze & fags).

This does apply to the DVD regions in the case of Play.com. It is my understanding that play send R2 disks from Jersey, whereas R1 disks come direct from source (North America) and are sent on from Belgium.
R1 disks would therefore be subject to UK Customs Duty and VAT.

SN

This item was edited on Friday, 7th March 2003, 00:42

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John Howells (Competent) posted this on Friday, 7th March 2003, 12:56

"Don`t think your correct in saying that goods from Jersey are dutyable."

Yes, I am!!

Why do you think I qualified the reference to duty by writing "duty (really only VAT on DVD Video`s)"? I wrote that because (a) even for DVD`s from the US and Canada and Australia you only pay VAT, not any import duty, and (b) because the word "duty" is often used, albeit incorrectly if you wish to be pedantic, as shorthand for any charges liable on imported goods, and was clearly being used that way in the original request that started this thread. As you note "Goods such as DVDs, are only liable (sic) VAT", which is precisely what I said!!

"This does apply to the DVD regions in the case of Play.com. It is my understanding that play send R2 disks from Jersey."

After which you went on to confirm that R1 disks from Play are liable to "duty", as I had previously noted, but did not clearly state what you thought happened to R2 disks from Play.

R2 disks from Play are indeed sent from Jersey and most certainly *ARE* liable to VAT on import to the UK, though as I keep saying, for such disks Play use a "paid at source" mechanism for disks over the £18 limit, so that, unlike R1 disks, the price you see is always the price you pay, whether that be under or over the £18 limit.

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Spiny Norman (Elite) posted this on Saturday, 8th March 2003, 00:38

I`ll admit I got a little confused by your qualification.

I`ve always seen `duty` as Customs Duty and VAT as a separate charge.

As a sidenote, I`ve never paid just VAT on Imported DVDs from North America, Hong Kong, Japan or Australia, unless I`ve also been charged Customs Duty (I`ve been lucky so far - only got caught once). So with R1 disks, the price I saw was the price I paid.

I`ll get me coat.......

SN

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