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Who is John Doe?

Neiliboy (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 6th April 2005, 15:51

Im always hearing references on US programmes like ER to John Doe.....i.e "we got ourselves a John Doe here" or if its a bird they`ll say Jane Doe.......

So who was/is he??? :/

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RE: Who is John Doe?

Jim Morrison (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 6th April 2005, 15:53

In English-speaking common-law jurisdiction, the name John Doe is used for a defendant or victim in a legal example or for a person whose identity is unknown or is intended to be anonymous. Male corpses whose identity is unknown are also known by the name John Doe. A female who is not known is referred to as Jane Doe. A child whose identity is unknown is referred to as Precious Doe. Additional people in the same family may be called James Doe, Judy Doe, etc.

An anonymous plaintiff is known as Richard Roe.

The Oxford English Dictionary states that John Doe is "the name given to the fictitious lessee of the plaintiff, in the (now obsolete) mixed action of ejectment, the fictitious defendant being called Richard Roe".

An account of the reasons why a fictitious tenant and a fictitious defendant were named is found in Charles Rembar`s book The Law of the Land.

By extension from the law usage, John Doe is often used in computer software needing a default or example first and last name for a form.

There is also a movie, directed by Frank Capra, starring Gary Cooper, called Meet John Doe. It is a political drama.

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RE: Who is John Doe?

rockysafc (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 6th April 2005, 15:54

If the police or whoever have a person/ dead body they can`t identify they give them that name until they can establish their identity. The female equivalent is Jane Doe.

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RE: Who is John Doe?

David Beckett (Reviewer) posted this on Wednesday, 6th April 2005, 16:00

An anonymous female in court is known as Jane Roe; as in Roe vs. Wade, the landmark U.S. Supreme Court case which legalised abortion.

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RE: Who is John Doe?

The original 42pcenter MD (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 6th April 2005, 16:59

Have the police ever had a John Doe only to find out that that is infact their name :/


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RE: Who is John Doe?

iain.j (Competent) posted this on Wednesday, 6th April 2005, 17:14

On a similar note, in movies, police often refer to a criminals MO, for example ; this guy has the same MO as the New York murders` . does anyone know what MO stands for? it`s probably obvious, but i cannot think what it is.

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RE: Who is John Doe?

Rassilon (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 6th April 2005, 17:18

Modus Operandi = Style\way\date the crime is commited in which.



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RE: Who is John Doe?

Jim Morrison (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 6th April 2005, 17:18

I can only think of Modus Operandi, which is the Latin phrase for mode of operation.

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RE: Who is John Doe?

David Beckett (Reviewer) posted this on Wednesday, 6th April 2005, 17:26

AFAIK, a Modus Operandi in criminal terms refers to how/why a person was killed and who`s `Modus Operandi` fits the pattern.

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RE: Who is John Doe?

iain.j (Competent) posted this on Wednesday, 6th April 2005, 17:53

Thanks guys.

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