Page 2 of The Wii U Thread

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Er, was the Gamecube #1 in its generation?
The quote is saying the the Gamecube was the most powerful console of the generation.. if power=sales, then Gamecube would have been the No 1 console.. which it wasn`t.

The Wii subsequently went and proved that again. 

Aha, I completely misread what he said there! He is right, and actually all the points I made back him up when I was bringing them up to prove him wrong. :(


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Gaffski says...
The quote is saying the the Gamecube was the most powerful console of the generation..it wasn`t the most powerful. hello black xbox. by some margin.

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it wasn`t the most powerful. hello black xbox. by some margin.Not sure about that at all.  The GCN was very powerful at the time.
It`s difficult to define `power` though - some excel at certain things and others at different ones.
However, despite what they say, the Wii U does need to look superb graphically.  While it`s slightly unfair to compare a PS3 game to a Wii U one as the PS3 has been out years and the developers can now do some incredible things on it and the opposite with the Wii U, there`s nothing up to now (including ZombieU) looking close to a quality PS3 title.  And as said, once the other next gen ones come out it will look even more underpowered.
Developing AAA games is not cheap nowadays so I can also imaging some being quite reluctant to develop a game with a unique control system just for the Wii U.  Almost admitting as much by announcing a very PS3 looking control pad at E3?...  But as an add-on - so further splitting the userbase as it`s very rare (ever?) for a game to succeed when specifically developed for a non-bundled add-on.
There was nothing in the press conference that made me think I definitely want one `as soon as it`s out`.  Putting it on the floor while doing trampolining in Wii Fit so I can see the ground disappearing.. :/  Selecting weapons for Batman Arkham City (a game I did a year ago - so why would I pay 4 times the price to do it again??.......) :/
At £249 it`s not cheap enough to get the casual gamer to pick one up impulsively (which was a huuuuuuge factor in the Wii`s success).  It`s current;y looking like a console to pick up a year or so into its life - when the price has dropped and there`s a few decent games out for it.  Even if it`s just Mario and Zelda.. :)

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Euro announcement due later today... Japan announcement equates to £210 and £250 for the normal and premium packs:

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Nintendo Co., Ltd. (Headquarters: Kyoto, Minami-ku, President: Satoru Iwata) is pleased to announce that the launch in Japan on December 8, 2012, "Wii U" new game console.
This time, selected according to your playing style retail price of ¥ 31,500 / ¥ 30,000 (tax included) and (tax), "Wii U" is "(Wii U Premium Set) Wii U PREMIUM SET" as available "Wii U will be provided a set of two (excluding tax) / ¥ 25,000 (including tax) 26,250 yen retail price (Wii U Basic Set) "BASIC SET.

Suggested retail price 31,500 yen (tax included)
30,000 yen (excluding tax)

Suggested retail price ¥ 26,250 (tax included)
25,000 yen (excluding tax)

Body Wii U (kuro) one (32GB memory storage unit) Wii U body units (shiro) 1
(8GB memory storage unit)
Wii U GamePad units (kuro) 1 Wii U GamePad units (shiro) 1
Wii U GamePad
Stylus (kuro) one Wii U GamePad
Stylus (shiro) one
Wii U GamePad
One charging stand
This 1 HDMI cable
1 AC adapter body pieces Wii U
1 Wii U GamePad AC adapter (s)
Wii U GamePad
One play stand
Stand (kuro) 1 set body upright Wii U
This 1 HDMI cable
1 AC adapter body pieces Wii U
1 Wii U GamePad AC adapter (s)
※ Only "kuro" body color of the "Wii U PREMIUM SET", and only "shiro" body color of the "Wii U BASIC SET".
On the same day as the body release Wii U soft retail price of 5,985 yen "New Super Mario Bros. U" corresponds yen / 5,700 yen (tax included) 4,935 suggested retail price "Nintendo Land" and (excluding tax) / ¥ 4,700 (tax included) Company tax ( will be released).

In addition, the release date and price in regard outside of Japan, will be announced separately from the Company`s international subsidiaries.


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need..... HD...... ZELDA!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It would be fantastic if the Wii/GC emulators continue to improve and become glitch free, because looking at some games in HD res with those is really amazing. Though some sort of backwards compatibility from the Wii U that did the same thing would be equally fab.

Anyway...

30th November is the EU release date:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19583826

US prices are £186 and £217.


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US prices are £186 and £217.
At those prices it has a chance.  I don`t think it will be though..... esp. the `premium` one.  Nearer £250+ methinks??..

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I imagine we`ll be looking at £199 for the basic, and £250 for the premium unit. Overpriced for me at those levels. I reckon that the 360 and PS3 will see a price drop when it launches, rendering the Wii U potentially struggling to get going.

I`m sure prices will fluctuate a fair bit once more companies announce it but Amazon are currently £249 and £299.  At that price a `fail`...  Premium one only available in black.  Basic one you need to have a Wii really as it doesn`t come with sensor bar etc.
Some really cool features still being announced though (TVii sounds good - but only announced for US.  Also I think you can play COD just on the controller.)

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