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DVD copy protection strengthened

nick 745 (Competent) posted this on Thursday, 17th February 2005, 12:42

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4266977.stm

Thought you might be interested

RE: DVD copy protection strengthened

Rassilon (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 17th February 2005, 13:02

AnyDVD has allegedly cracked this already. ;)



If we don`t take care of the customer, maybe they will stop bugging us.

RE: DVD copy protection strengthened

Corrach (Competent) posted this on Friday, 18th February 2005, 19:54

You can easily buy a mains powered scart cable that has an amplifier and filter in the input scart connector, that gets rid of all the `builtin distorsions` produced, if you try to copy it.

Makes a perfect copy.

Theres always a way ;)

RE: DVD copy protection strengthened

Viewtiful Mark (Elite) posted this on Saturday, 19th February 2005, 08:08

They can protect them as much as they want for me. As long as they don`t end up doing what they`ve done with CD, and lock their own customers out of the items they buy! How many times I`ve heard how people have bought original CD`s that won`t play, because they`ve been copy protected, effectively forcing the customer into the hands of the pirate!

RE: DVD copy protection strengthened

spin (Competent) posted this on Saturday, 19th February 2005, 09:12

This product is not like there old product ie you can buy a box then you can copy to tape etc it will stop you riping DVD" to your hard drive they can also change the keys when someone finds the keys they are using also "Macrovision said the new technology will work in "nearly all" current DVD players when applied to the discs, but it did not specify how many machines could have a problem with RipGuard." which means it will have problems with certain players as the DVD"s are not made to the true DVD spec.

RE: DVD copy protection strengthened

Viewtiful Mark (Elite) posted this on Saturday, 19th February 2005, 16:57

So basically what you are saying is, DVD will be like CD is now, and not all discs will be compatible with all players. It`s commercial suicide, if you ask me.

The pirates will be rubbing their hands with glee. I don`t buy DVD copies at all, but I would certainly consider it if the companies effectively make it impossible for me to play shop-bought DVD. I would have to, wouldn`t I? What other choice is there? Maybe Region 3 discs would be OK as I would imagine this new form of protection is expensive for publishers to use, and HK publishers would probably be reluctant to invest in it.

I can`t help but feel that there`s a bigger, long term conspiracy here, though. As if they`re gradually pushing customers into having to download movies. The benefits to the money men are clear, mainly not having to use retailers at all but still charging top dollar for downloads would make immense amounts of cash.

Then again, who would pay for it if you could get it for practically nothing? Funny this subject coming up though, as I`ve already had an issue with an original CD I got recently. I had to buy a pirate of it too because it wouldn`t record on my MD! I won`t do it again however...

RE: DVD copy protection strengthened

xfg (Elite Donator) posted this on Saturday, 19th February 2005, 20:47

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As if they`re gradually pushing customers into having to download movies. The benefits to the money men are clear, mainly not having to use retailers at all but still charging top dollar for downloads would make immense amounts of cash.


Or pushing people to download, then creating honeytrap torrents and then suing the arse off of everyone who connects to the tracker! /tinfoil hat

The dvds I`ve backed-up have been the most treasured/hard to find dvds I own - I don`t do it to return/sell originals. If I couldn`t make a back-up copy and I scratched the original they wouldn`t get money out of me anyway as I`d try to buy second-hand... it`s daft.


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RE: DVD copy protection strengthened

phelings (Elite) posted this on Saturday, 19th February 2005, 21:21

Buying a special scart lead now will circumvent Macrovision/CSS/CGMS,but as nobody knows exactly how effective Ripguard is going to be there are no definite options yet.One wonders how a company can have got round it when there are no dvd`s(that we know of) in the market with Ripguard on it.
But lets hope there are so many compatibility problems with existing players(and they say there will be some)that this drives Macrovision out of business along with their second rate copy protection systems that never worked anyway

RE: DVD copy protection strengthened

Viewtiful Mark (Elite) posted this on Sunday, 20th February 2005, 09:33

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...But lets hope there are so many compatibility problems with existing players(and they say there will be some)that this drives Macrovision out of business along with their second rate copy protection systems that never worked anyway


Well said that man!

RE: DVD copy protection strengthened

RJS (undefined) posted this on Sunday, 20th February 2005, 14:39

Don`t think this is anything other than Macrovision trying to keep a business going in this digital age.

If it is incompatible with a few DVD players, it should get enough bad publicity to put studios off buying it. But unless it prevents a significant number of DVD-ROM drives from reading it, which is unlikely since they are identical in nature to domestic players, it won`t stop ripping.

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