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bandicoot (Elite) posted this on Sunday, 13th September 2015, 10:18

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34234442

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eft wing Corbyn wins.

We thought Labour could not fall any lower after the last election as the North of England and Scotland rejected Labour, but it now has hit the deepest depths.

Two Shadow cabinet MPs resign as they will not work with him.

Many Labour MPs hate the situation, but will they resign in disgust......No, they want to keep their cushy £100 grand a year (inc expenses).

Cameron and cronies heard laughing their heads off as the Conservitives will now be in for good.

RE: Labour Corbyn

Jitendar Canth (Reviewer) posted this on Sunday, 13th September 2015, 10:50

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RE: Labour Corbyn

Snaps (Elite) posted this on Sunday, 13th September 2015, 11:04

New Footings laid for the Labour Mausoleum?

The start of the Thousand Year Right?

On a pure soap opera level it's going to be fascinating watching the Labour dog trying to gnaw it's own leg off.

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RE: Labour Corbyn

RJS (undefined) posted this on Sunday, 13th September 2015, 11:06

Initially the Tories wanted Corbyn to win, now I don't think they did. The Telegraph was all for it at the beginning, then suddenly they started to think not only could he win but he might represent a real alternative to the government.

His wiki page almost reads like that of a modern day saint:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Corbyn

Claimed the least amount of expenses of any MP during the scandal years ago, supported the Guildford Four and Birmingham Six, amongst other innocent people jailed over the years, campaigned for Pinochet to be put on trial, has an incredibly consistent record on supporting human rights, LGBT rights...

He'll win support from people who care about climate change, animal welfare, excessive energy and rail companies profits, were against the second Iraq war and don't want nuclear weapons we would never use and are only a defense against people who aren't mad and wouldn't use them against us anyway.

Add to that he isn't one of these rich kids like Cameron, Osbourne, Clegg, Milliband, Farage, etc, and he is like that one teacher at school you actually had any respect for.

Plus he has won Beard of the Year awards at least five times, and beards are in so the kids are gonna love him.

He is basically the one leader now that when he says he wants to stop tax evasion and the rich getting richer and the exploitation of underpaid workers, he doesn't mean that only up until the point when someone gives his party (or one of his mates, or promises him a job on the board in a few years) a bunch of cash to go soft on it.

I can see him winning back Labour voters who stopped voting, disillusioned LibDems, votes from the Greens and anyone who wished they could have voted SNP, plus people who swung to UKIP because they saw Farage as not being one of the rich Toffs (even though he is no different in schooling and background).

You can argue whether the majority of the country would like a modern left wing government, but at least now there is a genuine option for one. Going to be an interesting few years.

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RE: Labour Corbyn

Jitendar Canth (Reviewer) posted this on Sunday, 13th September 2015, 11:24

Frankly, after 20-odd years of New Labour and it's derivatives following a path of "We agree with Tory policy, but not how they do it", it'll be  refreshing to have someone actually there to remind us of why and how the the incumbents are giving us the Deliverance treatment.

A genuine opposition for a change. And someone potentially left of the SNP, which seems pretty hardcore at this point. Yeah, I'd vote for Corbyn Dallas, although I doubt he'll win the next general election. But he'll get a far bigger share of the popular vote than any of the alternatives would have, that Kendall, Burnham and other blandlings who exist as one Blairite gestalt, sharing a single personality between them, and with just the one leader election policy, "Don't vote for the beard". Yeah, they would have been great Labour leaders...

The only one who had the personality and charisma to win an election, Chuka Umunna, dropped out right at the start. Perhaps he knew that a Blairite Labour party would never ever regain the public trust, and that it would need to be completely reinvented and purged of the old, before it could be in the position  to win again. Let Corbyn be the Foot and Kinnock to take the party through its years in the wilderness, before Umunna comes in and makes it electable.

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RE: Labour Corbyn

alfie noakes (Elite) posted this on Sunday, 13th September 2015, 11:38

This is a funny one.

Left-wing idealist nut-job or refreshing true people-first socialist. I could see myself either lambasting him or voting for him in a few years.

I do think he has been in that comfortable 'fight the power' rebel position all these years - voting against his own leadership 500 times, apparently. Now he's the boss who has to make all the difficult/unpopular decisions will it be so easy for him?

It's all very entertaining though and I'm enjoying it.

RE: Labour Corbyn

Viewtiful Mark (Elite) posted this on Sunday, 13th September 2015, 13:06

Personally I'm all for it. Will I vote for it, I dunno, but since Thatcher's "end" all we've had is clones, either blue or red. Looking at Corbyn's rivals was so depressing - more Thatcher/Blairite fill-ins. I can't tell the difference between Labour and Tory any more. At least he is interesting and refreshing.

But then British people don't want change. They enjoy the status quo, in spite of constantly bitching about it. And younger people/students want to be entertained. How else would someone like Boris Johnson continue to be voted in as Mayor of London? I remember the 80's and 90's when students were more radicalised. Now they just want a large latte please.

RE: Labour Corbyn

Snaps (Elite) posted this on Sunday, 13th September 2015, 13:08

Let me mention two words that will either stir a knowing look, a smile or even a LOL. Liberal Democrats.
Okay wipe the lunch you just spat out off your chin.

After they were demolished in the election they voted in a new leader, all eight of them. Since when? Has anyone heard from them do you even know the name of the new leader? I don't and I voted for them.

The Conservatives now have free reign and will drift more right rather than back to the centre. Labour have just taken a massive swerve left leaving the centre ground, where the Lib Dems were being squeezed into an increasingly narrow gap, completely open.
Why weren't they/aren't they all over the media trying to claim their territory back? Are they really still sitting in a darkened room sobbing into an old orange election poster.

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RE: Labour Corbyn

mbilko (Elite) posted this on Sunday, 13th September 2015, 16:56

Well labour got in in Scotland for the best part of 20 years....why? because they were labour....frankly they didn't give a stuff, were beyond smug...once they realised that the public had sussed them out it was too late....so Corbyn...good on him i say....I haven't voted labour since my 1st 2 votes in my teens and early 20's but would at least consider them now as he is what labour should be...left wing......and as previously stated....at least now we have a genuine alternative and if and when the tories get in next time we have no one to blame but ourselves.

RE: Labour Corbyn

Si Wooldridge (Reviewer) posted this on Sunday, 13th September 2015, 16:57

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Jitendar Canth says...
"The only one who had the personality and charisma to win an election, Chuka Umunna, dropped out right at the start. Perhaps he knew that a Blairite Labour party would never ever regain the public trust"

No, there was something a bit more odd about that.

As to being scared of Labour, not a chance other than the real possibility of a dearth of real opposition.  We need all governments to be held to account and I doubt this will now happen.

The reality?  We'll see...

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