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The problem with governments spying is...

RJS (undefined) posted this on Friday, 1st August 2014, 08:38

...they don't know when to stop.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/07/31/234997/cia-staffers-accessed-senate.html

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An internal CIA investigation confirmed allegations that agency personnel improperly intruded into a protected database used by Senate Intelligence Committee staff to compile a scathing report on the agency’s detention and interrogation program, prompting bipartisan outrage and at least two calls for spy chief John Brennan to resign.

If experience taught us anything, it's that governments are made up of people, and very few people don't have an agenda. Put enough power in the hands of enough people, and someone will abuse it, not always intentionally but it is inevitable. :/

Some people might like the idea of some branches of the government spying on other branches, but Watergate and the above example show that this isn't always for altruistic reasons.

Personally I don't mind governments looking for terrorists and monitoring suspects, however I do think they should be open about what they are doing. Tracking and bugging people who travel out to Syria for training camps, quite happy with that. Bugging Angela Merkel's phone is hard to justify.


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RE: The problem with governments spying is...

Snaps (Elite) posted this on Friday, 1st August 2014, 09:44

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Rob Shepherd says...
"it's that governments are made up of people, "

Who operate on the principle (although lacking any) that, if they can they will.
Otherwise refered to as Mission Creep (No not Billy Graham).

On an individual level there was a phone in last night on 5Live, can't find it now, and one of there regular tech wizards was discussing mobile phone theft and security.

Apparently you lucky IOS.7 users have the facility to protect and even brick your phone remotely if nicked. We lowly Android folk are still waiting for Google to write the code for our devices.
He stated that when this was released with IOS.7 thefts of devices using it dropped 24% although those of other devices rose.

Most worrying was phone theft which could earn the thief thousands and cost you the same with in an hour or two of the device going missing.
Consisted of the thieves having premium lines, which earn them money when called and phoning them in sequence then putting the calls on hold.
I'll be contacting O2 to find out how to bar premium lines on mine.

Useful service called Gishpuppy which I need to investigate which generates a unique email address for every service you use that needs one and routes any emails to your main address. Therefore when another bank or govt dept leaves your details in a coffee shop it only affects your dealings with that one organisation.

That ended up a bit waffly. If you'd rather shift it to a seperate thread Rob help yourself or I'll delete and repost.


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RE: The problem with governments spying is...

bandicoot (Elite) posted this on Friday, 1st August 2014, 09:51




Yeh, right 

RE: The problem with governments spying is...

Snaps (Elite) posted this on Friday, 1st August 2014, 10:19

So we can install webcams all over Mr Hagues home (homes) and stream the content online.

Comes under the same section heading as the regularly trumpeted 'if it saves the life of just one child' and falls firmly into the 'have you stopped beating your wife. Yes or no.' category.

ie: complete b*ll*cks

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RJS (undefined) posted this on Friday, 19th September 2014, 09:11

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/opinion/israels-nsa-scandal.html?_r=0

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It should also trouble Americans that the N.S.A. could head down a similar path in this country. Indeed, there is some indication, from a top-secret 2012 document from Mr. Snowden’s leaked files that I saw last year, that it already is.

The document, from Gen. Keith B. Alexander, then the director of the N.S.A., notes that the agency had been compiling records of visits to pornographic websites and proposes using that information to damage the reputations of people whom the agency considers “radicalizers” — not necessarily terrorists, but those attempting, through the use of incendiary speech, to radicalize others.

Not many steps away...


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RJS (undefined) posted this on Wednesday, 18th February 2015, 08:52

Someone (probably NSA) has been hiding spying software in hard drive firmware...

http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/16/8048243/nsa-hard-drive-firmware-virus-stuxnet


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