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Policing question.

Snaps (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 10th April 2019, 17:32

Can any of our boys in blue on here answer the following.
No fingers being pointed just relating to an ongoing discussion elsewhere.
If you stop a cyclist for say a red light or wrong way on a one way how does any prosecution compare to the simple giving of a ticket to a driver or biker.

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RE: Policing question.

Pete-MK (Elite Donator) posted this on Wednesday, 10th April 2019, 22:32

It's mainly fixed penalty notices, but only if they're caught by a police or traffic officer.

https://www.cyclistsdefencefund.org.uk/cycling-offences


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Snaps (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 11th April 2019, 08:28

Quote:
Pete-MK says...
"It's mainly fixed penalty notices, but only if they're caught by a police or traffic officer."

Well that kind of confuses me.
I'd assumed that the reason cyclists were never stopped was that a ticket option wasn't available.


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RE: Policing question.

Robee J Shepherd (undefined) posted this on Thursday, 11th April 2019, 12:42

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Snaps says...
"I'd assumed that the reason cyclists were never stopped was that a ticket option wasn't available."

Maybe harder to pull them over or take their number plate. ;)


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RE: Policing question.

Pete-MK (Elite Donator) posted this on Thursday, 11th April 2019, 14:24

Indeed. It really is a case of being in the right place at the right time to catch an offence taking place and issuing a fine there and then. Unless some kind of ANPR-style cycle registration is rolled out they'll be getting away with reckless crap for years to come.

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admars (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 11th April 2019, 15:01

reg plates etc don't exactly make all car drivers law abiding citizens

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RE: Policing question.

marksparks999 (Elite) posted this on Friday, 12th April 2019, 11:50

sorry, late to this

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Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 s.36 and the Traffic Signs Regulations and Directions and Directions 2002 regulations 10 and 36(1), road users must not cross the stop line when the traffic lights are red. This offence, also known as ‘red light jumping’, applies to cyclists as well as motorists. The maximum penalty for red light jumping is a £1,000 fine and six penalty points endorsed on the driver’s licence however, in most cases, a driver will get a Fixed Penalty Notice (On-the-Spot Fine) of £30 whilst the maximum would only ever be imposed if the Fixed Penalty Notice is contested and taken to court. The punishment is also applicable to cyclists who, if caught, can be issued a Fixed Penalty Notice of £30.


so essentially if you have driving licence regardless of you mode of transport you may fined and points!

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RE: Policing question.

bandicoot (Elite) posted this on Friday, 12th April 2019, 12:05

So if you have a bike and no driving licence then no fine or points ...Correct, yes or no?

As for one way streets, I get off my bike and walk on the pavement with bike the other way, but would never cycle the wrong way.

A lot of older bikers and younger ones go on the pavement just through fear of traffic being far too close.  I prefer bike paths for cycling.

RE: Policing question.

Snaps (Elite) posted this on Friday, 12th April 2019, 12:25

Either with or without a licence how many cyclists are ever stopped and prosecuted.
I've been driving professionally most of my life and the number of times I've seen a cyclist stopped by the police would not need the fingers of both hands.

Manpower?
Directives from senior level about who and what to major on?
Or even from government level in an effort to encourage cycling.

I genuinely don't know but it puzzles me.

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RE: Policing question.

admars (Elite) posted this on Friday, 12th April 2019, 12:43

I've not seen anyone stopped for a cycling offense, but I've not seen many many policemn by cars having pulled them over for a traffic offence either though.

on my way to work I drive on roads, then motorway, where every day i see undertaking, changing lane with no indicating etc, then when I come off the motorway i see a few people cycling on the pavement, this morning funnily enough there was a guy cycling on the pavement, even though the road has a nicely painted cycling lane!

Actually the other day coming home there's a stretch of motorway where "everyone" goes across the herringbones to get in left hand lane as the lane you join the motorway on, becomes left hand lane and it's v slow moving. as I was getting close to that bit, i saw a motorcycle policeman come past me, and it was quite funny watch him go over to a car, tap on the window, signal for them to wind it down, talk to them, gesticulate (I'm guessing to slow down calm down don't drive over the herringbones) then he went to the next car, did same thing, drove to next car same thing :)

he could have made a small fortune for the Christmas party ;)

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