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RE: Self driving cars and morality

Snaps (Elite) posted this on Saturday, 31st March 2018, 12:47

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"Blackpool pleasure Beach had the right idea, Like this "

That's a really good idea and they could put bigger vehicles on there to take more passengers.
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RE: Self driving cars and morality

Robee J Shepherd (undefined) posted this on Tuesday, 8th May 2018, 15:52

https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/07/uber-vehicle-reportedly-saw-but-ignored-woman-it-struck/

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B: Fault in the car’s higher logic, which makes decisions like which objects to pay attention to and what to do about them. No need to slow down for a parked bike at the side of the road, for instance, but one swerving into the lane in front of the car is cause for immediate action. This mimics human attention and decision making and prevents the car from panicking at every new object detected.

The sources cited by The Information say that Uber has determined B was the problem. Specifically, it was that the system was set up to ignore objects that it should have attended to; Herzberg seems to have been detected but considered a false positive.



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RE: Self driving cars and morality

bandicoot (Elite) posted this on Tuesday, 8th May 2018, 20:03

So they now have a 'hit and run' mode 

RE: Self driving cars and morality

Robee J Shepherd (undefined) posted this on Friday, 25th May 2018, 11:51

Today, bandi... you are right.

https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/NR20180524.aspx

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At 1.3 seconds before impact, the self-driving system determined that emergency braking was needed to mitigate a collision. According to Uber emergency braking maneuvers are not enabled while the vehicle is under computer control to reduce the potential for erratic vehicle behavior. The vehicle operator is relied on to intervene and take action. The system is not designed to alert the operator.

It saw the bicycle, but had disabled the functionality to brake in an emergency. :(


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bandicoot (Elite) posted this on Friday, 25th May 2018, 13:18

Yep, its all just madness. But they will push it through no matter what.

If they want self driving cars they should have their own dedicated roads with big high concrete walls either side to act as a guide and keep pedestrians and normal driving cars well away from them.

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Jitendar Canth (Reviewer) posted this on Monday, 19th April 2021, 11:11

Just linked to a news story about a self-flying helicopter on Mars, and got all excited... and the next news story I click on is this one...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56799749

Yeah, self driving cars... woo hoo...

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RE: Self driving cars and morality

Robee J Shepherd (undefined) posted this on Monday, 19th April 2021, 21:08

Where is Bandi when you need someone to go on about how self driving cars are a terrible idea?


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Pete-MK (Elite Donator) posted this on Tuesday, 20th April 2021, 09:31

I'm no Luddite, in fact I embrace swathe of new technology, most of it way out of my budget, but any autonomous vehicle is going to be fraught with danger if employed whereever humans may roam.

I'm also a fan of gadgets, especially ones in cars to make the driving experience more amiable. But this comes with its own drawbacks. As my dear old pop used to say; "fill a car up with more crap, there's more crap to go wrong with it."

Machines are fallible, mainly because they're created by man. Modern cars come with no user servicable parts, and a lot of engines are just slabs of plastic with a couple of places where the manufacturers bless you with the priviledge of filling up the brake fluid once in a while.

The first inkling all of this rubbish was when Amazon was touting the idea of employing delivery drones. My first though was 'what happens when the signal is interrupted, or it hits a bird, then falls out of the sky and takes out a bus queue?'

Now you've got idiots going for a drive in their Teslas while sitting in the passenger seat, deliberately reading a book so show how indifferent they are to the danger they're putting themselves in, and everyone else around them.

In my capacity as a truck driver, it's become a built-in skill to anticipate what every other idiot on the road may or may not do. in some cases that means looking 5 cars ahead, or to the side, or through a hedge on a country road, and can adjust accordingly. Autonomous vehicle can only see what's directly in front or behind them, and they sure as hall can't read facial expressions or body language like a human

Keep the machines under the bonnet, and away from the steering wheel, thanks

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Robee J Shepherd (undefined) posted this on Tuesday, 20th April 2021, 10:53

I think at some point they will be statistically safer than letting humans drive, but statistics never help when it's someone you care about.


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Pete-MK (Elite Donator) posted this on Tuesday, 20th April 2021, 13:37

If the percentage of driverless cars was >90%, then it would work, but as long as there are human on the roads doing human things, there will be accidents.

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