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Police: Right to strike..

dusty321 (Elite) posted this on Friday, 23rd March 2012, 13:24

Who thinks the Police should have the `Right to strike` given the attack from the Winsor report and the so called "unprecedented attack on policing by this government"

The coalition ignored calls from the NHS and it`s member to drop the Health and Social Care Bill, will the Police`s concerns have a similar fate?

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RJS (undefined) posted this on Friday, 23rd March 2012, 13:31

It`s a difficult one. The firefighters managed to strike and still cover emergency calls, and I think paramedics have done the same?

They could do it for some things like refusing to police football matches, which would mean they couldn`t go ahead.


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Si Wooldridge (Reviewer) posted this on Friday, 23rd March 2012, 18:11

No.  They are in serious need of reform.

For example, if they cut the amount of overtime they do, they could afford to recruit more policemen.

What exactly is this "unprecedented attack on policing" of which you speak?  Examples please.

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marksparks999 (Elite) posted this on Friday, 23rd March 2012, 19:25

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No. They are in serious need of reform.

For example, if they cut the amount of overtime they do, they could afford to recruit more policemen.

What exactly is this "unprecedented attack on policing" of which you speak? Examples please.
Well i can guarentee you i have had less than 20 hours paid overtime in the last year, we have to put time on our card, known as TOIL.

I dont agree with striking, but i can tell you if the Winsor Review goes through due to the change in pay and conditions, we will be given the right.  I personally would advokate `work to rule`... rather than strike!

Its a very immotive subject, and i persoanlly will be £2248 worse off in the year 2013/14, and thats not taking into account the pay freeze, and the rising cost of inflation, i know colleagues could be as much as £7500 a year worse off...

But hey, what does the public care... except when they need us!      


Oh and when they have finished bashing the police... it will be the NHS next!

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dusty321 (Elite) posted this on Friday, 23rd March 2012, 19:54

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Si Wooldridge says...
unprecedented attack on policing




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"So many of our dreams at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we summon the will, they soon become inevitable."
- Christopher Reeve (1953-2004)

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r8sso (Elite) posted this on Friday, 23rd March 2012, 20:16

I`m pretty sure football matches are mostly policed by coppers doing OT so doubt they`ll strike then.

My best mate was a sergeant when he lived with me and he used to rave about the OT. 4+2 or something like that so if you did an extra hour on your shift you`d get a minimum of 6 hours. Crazy. It backs up Si`s comment about cut the overtime and recruit more officers.

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Si Wooldridge (Reviewer) posted this on Friday, 23rd March 2012, 20:38

posted by nosh on Friday, 23rd March 2012, 19:54

I asked for examples, not a self-serving statement from the Police Federation.  What in Winsor specifically do you feel is not a warranted reform?

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dusty321 (Elite) posted this on Friday, 23rd March 2012, 20:56

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Si Wooldridge says...
I asked for examples, not a self-serving statement from the Police Federation.  What in Winsor specifically do you feel is not a warranted reform?

My bad, did I say I`d read the report? It`s an extract from one of the tabs.

If you have something to say about the reforms knock yourself out!

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"So many of our dreams at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we summon the will, they soon become inevitable."
- Christopher Reeve (1953-2004)

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Si Wooldridge (Reviewer) posted this on Friday, 23rd March 2012, 21:51

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nosh says...
My bad, did I say I`d read the report? It`s an extract from one of the tabs.

If you have something to say about the reforms knock yourself out!
I`d have hoped you`d read it before starting the thread...

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The review found all basic pay contained a payment for working unsocial hours, even though only about 57% of lower rank-and-file officers regularly did.
That`s as bad as the overtime.
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40% of officers do not work unsocial hours and stand to lose out
Good, why should they get paid for something they don`t do?

That`s my start.

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dusty321 (Elite) posted this on Friday, 23rd March 2012, 23:34

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Si Wooldridge says...
I`d have hoped you`d read it before starting the thread..

Well I didn`t, feel free to pick through the report and give us your findings. I`m interested in the views of the guys who do the job and their thoughts on a `Right to strike`
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- Christopher Reeve (1953-2004)

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