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Just interested in some people opinions...

The govt plans on taxing cars (in the future) by how much they drive... this wont be out for a while, but they say its to reduce trafic, keep an eye on your speed, make sure you are paying for what you are driving so some one who does not use their car much wont be over charged in road tax...

BUT, what if there is a different reason. I.e as people start using gas cars, electric cars etc, the govt wont get any cash from over taxing our petrol.

Is this just another way of the govt telling us 1 thing so we wont see the truth until its too late and everones paying loads of money for using the roads, not the fuel.

It might be just me, but what do you guys think..

This item was edited on Monday, 11th June 2007, 14:15

A few years ago I read that the proposal was
Abolish petrol tax
Abolish road tax
Charge per mile - time period and area would be more expensive

So people living in areas with lots of public transport (thats you lot in london) would pay more per mile as you have a viable alternative.

People in areas without a lot of public transport (thats me up north) would pay less. I would in theory be better off - uuntill I visit my sister down south!!

BTW. The fuel on my car means that for every mile it is costing me about 15p, without the fuel tax it would be about 3p

I would like to know what excuse the government would use to TAX the people when we have

1. "zero-emissions" homes
2. "zero-emissions" cars
3. Recycle all our waste (food, plastics, etc)
4. Work from home using broadband

Can`t blame the environment could they.

How about..."tax for no tax"...because there`s no other way to tax people.

I`m not sure where I read it but after 9/11 when they had no flights for 2 days the global temp readings went up quite a bit. This was down to the fact that there was less polution in the air from the flights. "If" this was true if we continue to be environmently friendly will it not cause the global temp to go up? or as it is going up is it because we are not pumping so much crap into the environment.

The Jackal

What baffle me about cutting down the use of our cars is that public transport is not cheap. I live outside London and go to work by train (off peak), and still cost me £10 for a single, for a ride of about 36 miles (i come back by cab). If you ask me it is bloody expensive. Should not be anymore than a fiver i think. So in my opinion whatever you use, car or public transport you get screwed...
JC

Seems to me that the biggest problem with all of these so-called environmentally driven policies is that they are drafted by people that aren`t affected by them. Not that I think they genuinely have anything to do with the environment.

It`s not like we all live in close-knit communities anymore, working on our own doorsteps providing services to people we know. Most of us need to travel to find work, unless we want to settle for working in a low paid, often menial jobs. Are the best people in certain fields just expected to settle for what`s available locally?

I`m an IT contractor and I often have to go where the work is. There is no viable alternative to private transport in Bristol, so I have to use my car (although at the moment I`m actually cycling to work as it`s fairly close, but that`s a rarity). The bus services are expensive and unreliable, and have caused me to be late on a number of occasions (when they just don`t turn up).

My Mrs works for a private company that supports people with learning difficulties. Is she to be taxed off of the road as well?

Bump by 11 years, but never a truer word said.....

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Sidshady says....Just interested in some people opinions...

The govt plans on taxing cars (in the future) by how much they drive... this wont be out for a while, but they say its to reduce traffic, keep an eye on your speed, make sure you are paying for what you are driving so some one who does not use their car much wont be over charged in road tax...

BUT, what if there is a different reason. I.e as people start using gas cars, electric cars etc, the govt wont get any cash from over taxing our petrol.
Well its starting.
Yes doom and gloom for the electric car future (and fueled cars as well)....

It did not take long for Southern Ireland to think about tax loss revenue if all cars go electric, and not paying fuel tax.

Ireland is proposing a tax per mile for all cars, so if you have electric car, then your back to more or less paying a fuel tax. And other countries may follow this lead if it goes ahead.

Only governments can think of ways of taxing more

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...fuel-1.3588114

Unfortunately, we do have to pay tax in one way or another. When cars are exempt from road tax - and all cars are heading that way - you have to find other ways of taxing them, and it seems fair that you would tax on the amount you use the roads.

For around 800 miles of driving in France this year, I had to pay about £115 in tolls on the motorways (you could avoid this using A roads). We have it pretty cheap here by comparison.

It would be a good idea if we could charge foreign vehicles that use our roads which we've never seemed to do anything about.

Taxing vehicles by the amount they use the roads has always been a fairer system than penalising those who, for example, only commute a few miles per day.

The main practical issue I can see though is collecting that tax.

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I always thought that car taxes and third party insurance should be a surcharge on fuel. The more you travel, the more you use, and the more you pay, which is fairer. It would also free up the justice system of uninsured drivers. If you want fully comp, you buy a top up from a company.

That leaves taxing and insuring cyclists, human powered transport.

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