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New sponsorship deal for Suarez

Choagy (Elite) posted this on Sunday, 29th June 2014, 17:49

After the Pizza Hut ad a few years ago with Pearce and others I reckon they should enrol Suarez. 

"Another spicy Italian combo to sink your teeth in to"

That would be an advert worth watching

Choagy FFCUK The SPL

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LongPig (Competent) posted this on Monday, 30th June 2014, 12:59

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RJS (undefined) posted this on Monday, 30th June 2014, 20:13

Suarez apologises, you know, like how the council or a politician usually does...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28099336


Quote:
"The truth is that my colleague Giorgio Chiellini suffered the physical result of a bite in the collision he suffered with me," said Suarez in a statement.

That's right, he didn't bite him, they collided with Suarez' mouth just happening to be open.


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sj (Elite) posted this on Monday, 30th June 2014, 21:31

The only political thing there Rob is your selective posting of his quote.
Quote:
Rob Shepherd says...
"That's right, he didn't bite him, they collided with Suarez' mouth just happening to be open.
"
He hasn't said that at all. 
He's clearly said Chiellini suffered a physical result of a bite, not 'my mouth happened to be open' - which wouldn't be a bite.
He went on to say he deeply regretted it and apologised to Chiellini and everyone else.

All in the name of a move to Barca I feel.

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RJS (undefined) posted this on Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 09:11

He didn't say "I bit him", he said he "suffered the physical result of a bite in the collision he suffered with me."

I don't recall seeing a collision in which Suarez' mouth just happened to be open. I don't even know how you could say that was a collision at all.

And this is a statement he has put out, which means it in theory has been carefully gone over, no doubt by a lawyer to remove any admission that he intentionally bit the guy.

Apologising for something and at the same time not admitting it, is just poor imho.


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sj (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 2nd July 2014, 21:36

lol - talk about semantics.
How is saying that Chiellini suffered injury as a result of a bite not saying that he bit him?  Every single article I've read, acknowledges it as admittance and an apology.Quote:
Rob Shepherd says...
"I don't recall seeing a collision in which Suarez' mouth just happened to be open."
Again, Suarez' apology said no such thing so you're repeating something that he didn't say.  A mouth 'happening to be open' is not a bite.  Seeing as he didn't say 'my mouth happened to be open', he said it was the result of a bite, again I'm not sure what you're basing things on - certainly not his apology.  Not sure what else he could say. :/

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RJS (undefined) posted this on Wednesday, 2nd July 2014, 21:58

Quote:
sj says...
"he said it was the result of a bite, again I'm not sure what you're basing things on - certainly not his apology"

To me it's like the difference between manslaughter and murder (the semantics, not the crime!). You can accidentally shoot someone with a gun, or you can point a gun at them and intentionally shoot them.

I guess I just want to see him actually say "I bit him" rather than getting admittedly extremely close with, "I'm sorry he got bit" but just not quite all the way there. For me that would make up for the dive he did immediately after the fact, and the submission he made to FIFA claiming he didn't do it despite all the TV evidence to the contrary.

The semantics of his language are important imho, which is why I compared his apology to that of a politician.

If I was a violent person and I hit you, would you be happy with me not even admitting I'd done it initially, and then eventually coming out with, "The truth is that my colleague SJ suffered the physical result of a punch in the collision he suffered with me," would you be completely happy with that? Or would you rather I'd just come out and say, "The truth is that I punched my colleague SJ and I'm very sorry I did it."

I think it's the difference between admitting Chiellini got bit, and admitting you intentionally bit him.

But maybe it's just me! I can't even bring myself to listen to politicians anymore, I hate the dishonesty.


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Choagy (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 3rd July 2014, 15:42

Good post/ reply Rob.

Sadly far too many people are loathe to admit their wrong-doings and their mealy mouthed utterances merely strengthen peoples views that they are cretins. In this, Suarez biting a player, he has done everything other than the right thing. Simply stating "I made a qunt of myself and am extremely sorry for my actions". Instead of that simple admission he and the rest of the Uruguay squad/ nation/ F.A. have done everything they can to deflect attention from the real culprit. I have only ever watched one player in Falkirk colours ever put his hand up when he was at fault, that player being Kevin Christie. A man who when he made an erse of it admitted it and for that he is held in high regard by me and many fellow "Bairns". Such an example would be lost on some of the clowns that infest the game nowadays

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alfie noakes (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 3rd July 2014, 16:24

Unicorn chaser...

I'm sure everyone's sick of these things now but, still, this is assez amusant:

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sj (Elite) posted this on Friday, 4th July 2014, 09:40

OK Rob, we obviously disagree.
In your example scenario you're combining two parts of quotes that he effectively did say.  i.e. An apology would be 'The truth is that my colleague SJ suffered the physical result of a punch in the collision he suffered with me and I deeply regret it' which is effectively what he did say.
He said that Chiellini suffered from the physical result of a bite, he deeply regretted it and apologised to Chiellini and the entire football world and vowed it would never happen again.  Chiellini publically accepted it within the hour (and hoped his ban would be reduced) and every media comment I've seen on it accepted it as the full apology I read it to be.
Man, you'd hold a grudge.  If I punched you, you'd want me on my knees rubbing it in. :)

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