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Snaps (Elite) posted this on Wednesday, 1st October 2014, 21:49

Just back from Florida and very noticeable in the Malls over there that Microsoft have opened identical stores to Apple sometimes even right next door.
Same store layout, same glass front same staff in T shirts with 'back stage pass' Id's.
One important difference though.
Apples stuff works. Went in one Microsoft store. Items not switched on. Programs hanging when they were. Videos playing pixelated to hell and back.
Best advert for Apple I've seen. If only I could afford one.

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RE: Apple v Microsoft

RJS (undefined) posted this on Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 08:27

Sounds like Microsoft to me. Jobs was clearly a tyrant, but there is no doubting the difference he made to Apple, just look at the mess they made of good products before he returned.

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Chris Gould (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 14:34

I don't get all of this 'Apple's stuff just works'. Apart from all the stuff that doesn't, I assume? Microsoft's stuff works as well.







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RE: Apple v Microsoft

RJS (undefined) posted this on Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 14:59

Quote:
Chris Gould says...
"Microsoft's stuff works as well"

Except when it used to bluescreen, or takes ages to boot up and be useable, or just randomly decides to spend a few minutes disk thrashing for no apparent reason, or just becomes unresponsive occasionally, or never finds certain things when searching for them in the start menu, or... I'll stop now before I get annoyed at it all.

I'm not saying Macs are perfect, they aren't, or that Microsoft are the only offenders, they aren't. But there are things windows users have just learnt to live with and are forced to find acceptable that just have no reason in this day and age to be acceptable.

This might just be more of a general rant at poor standards these days. It just drives me nuts, and the only way to fix it is from the operating system up. You just can't fix this sort of thing from the app level down.

I remember when Adobe Photoshop didn't eat 50% of my CPU whilst idling in the background, and just 3% of it when idling in the foreground. Remember when Flash didn't bring websites or your PC to a crawl? Remember when web browsers didn't eat upwards of 2gb of RAM when they'd been open for a while?

Responsive software on nicely made hardware that just works is what we all want. It's just annoying to get that these days you have to spend a load more money on a Mac. If you get a Windows PC, first thing you often have to do is uninstall a load of shovelware, and then when it is useable, it will become almost unuseable.

Windows runs okay if you don't install anything on it. :/

My arcade cabinet has a PC with Vista 64 bit on it, and an arcade front end, and that's it. That's the only things installed on it. But it still takes far too long to boot up, and likes to thrash the disc in the background occasionally (yes text indexing is turned off).

I recently disabled a load of services (my god, take a trip through the services dialog one day and see how much unneeded crap there is running) to make it do this less, and boot up quicker, which helped. But it still does a bit.

And let's not even start on how awful the Windows 8 UI is, and how little improvement 8.1 made to it.

I'm just not sure you can build good systems and software by committee, you need a strong leader with a clear vision, and the time and money to do it. Microsoft don't have that, and actually I suspect Apple have lost a part of that too.

With their new larger phone option, it does seem a bit like they are no longer giving people what they want before they realise they even wanted it, but what people tell them they want. And often that isn't what they actually really need, and that's what I think is wrong with Microsoft.


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RE: Apple v Microsoft

Pete-MK (Elite Donator) posted this on Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 18:11



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admars (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 20:00

I remember having to ask for help fromt eh help desk first time I used a Mac at Uni, I couldn't work out how to eject my floppy disc. didn't occur to me to drag the floppy icon to the waste basket! I still don't see how that makes sense and is easy to use.

I think the joke image above sums up how I fell about it, it's very much like the PC Vs console debate, an Apple device, be it a PC, a phone, a tablet, is all very good, if you want to do what Apple let you do, but on the plus side that does mean that developers can test their software on all the available hardware thoroughly.

I guess that's why some machines have soldered in memory, so you can't mix and match speeds/brands, use bad quality memory and "lessen" your Apple experience.

However, similar experience to my floppy disc one, at work a couple of weeks ago, 3 of us were trying to work out how to open task manager on a Mac, in the end we had to google it! The developer who sits behind me, bought a Macbook, to do iPhone and Android dev, but his machine was really sluggish, so he found out how to see the CPU and memory usage, but wanted to work out what services, background apps etc to kill, as with hardly anything open 3 of the 4 gb was being used.

So Rob, these problems do exist with Macs, but I guess most home users just use the pre-installed apps and are fine, but venture outside the machines comfort zone and it's the same old story, of "what the hell are all these things running, why are there so many Adobe processes?" etc ;)

I suppose if he went to the Apple Store with the problem, they'd just tell him to trade in for a newer model.

RE: Apple v Microsoft

badboybez (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 22:43

Had my iMac for coming upto 5 years now...no issues and still as fast as the day I got it.


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RE: Apple v Microsoft

bandicoot (Elite) posted this on Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 23:27

My problem with Mac, is I have used windows for over a decade, and most of my works programs will not work on Mac. So I stick with windows.

One thing about windows though, it seems you have to jump every alternate windows to get a good one, for example....

Win 95 was good. I bought.
Win 98 not so good.
WinXP was good, I bought,
Vista was rubbish.
Win7 was good I bought.
Win 8 not so good.

Next, who knows ??

RE: Apple v Microsoft

Snaps (Elite) posted this on Friday, 3rd October 2014, 11:55

Not knowing as much about the intricacies of operating systems and programs as you do Rob it's almost welcome seeing a post like yours as I realise it's not just me. As in I've screwed something up or haven't installed/unistalled something I should have.
As to the pics. I realise the point being made but ring round for prices to service a classic Mustang. Probably just as much as the Lamborghini.
Just waiting for the phone call on my Citroen and that's likely to make my eyes water.

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