Page 10 of The Scottish Referendum

Looking at it superficially, it does look a bit like throwing his teddy out of the pram. But on reflection, he's been first minister of Scotland since 2007, and his political direction for that entire time (and before) has been an independent Scotland.

Clearly that is now not going to happen, so I actually think he's done the honorable thing, and stepping aside to give someone who has a better chance of working with the status quo. It needs a clean slate, I think, someone without the political baggage.


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No, it's an ego trip. If SNP had won Salmond would have been installed for years. He had even picked out the big house in Edinburgh. Just like David Milliband who was pipped by his brother and f****d off to New York. That was how much he cared about the Labour Party.

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"Never once did the Yes campaign state everything was going to be rosey"
But they constantly harped on about how much better it would be if they went alone, which never rang true.

The way I see it, Salmond is amazingly like Farage in many ways, and yes, he did a many great things at home with the power he had, for which he should be applauded (as I'm sure Farage would do as well, if he ever got any real power).

The thing they have in common, is that they propose great things may happen once separation has been decided, but most of their policies rely on numbers they simply dont/didn't have (Salmond's vanishing oil reserves, Farage's magical billions once we kick the immigrants out), and when independent experts call them out on their dangerous inaccuracy, it's labelled as 'Westminster Scaremongering'.

Although I'm sure he'll never admit it, I know that Alex is completely regretting pushing for the underage vote. While he applauded the youngsters for taking the time and effort to vote, they unfortunately did what a lot of the old stalwarts didn't do - they actually looked into it, and realised, in a very large number, that breaking away would have blighted their future for decades to come.

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"now it is up to the three amigos to deliver"
They absolutely have to, or Salmond's departure won;t be the last



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...and is the promised better deal for England going to include any of the free prescriptions, no tuition fees, childcare etc?
Not a Pussy in Hades I'd guess.
Just a little tinkering with the parliamentary voting and a pat on the head.


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"...and is the promised better deal for England going to include any of the free prescriptions, no tuition fees, childcare etc?"
Probably not, but giving the Scots tax raising responsibility may mean they have to lose them as well...


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.and is the promised better deal for England going to include any of the free prescriptions, no tuition fees, childcare etc?

I always laugh when I see this. It is anything but FREE.

The Scots have to raise taxes from working people to pay for such free things. So it is not free. That's why there has to be working people to pay for it all.

We in England likewise also have to pay income tax and stamps, which can go from 20% all the way to 45% of your wages.

Over and above that we have the Council tax which is now a staggering high figure for most, on average for a home owner of over £2000 a year, just to keep a roof over your head. Its crazy!

Nothing free in this country of the UK.

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"The Scots have to raise taxes from working people to pay for such free things. So it is not free. That's why there has to be working people to pay for it all."
The Scottish parliament doesn't actually raise any taxes directly for these things though, do they?  They could, they could raise or lower taxes by 3p in the £ and have been able to do that for ages, but choose not to...


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Pete-MK says...
"The way I see it, Salmond is amazingly like Farage in many ways, and yes, he did a many great things at home with the power he had, for which he should be applauded (as I'm sure Farage would do as well, if he ever got any real power)."
Sorry pete that is utter shecht. To compare the First Minister to a racist, bigoted clown is an absolute insult to those who support the SNP or voted for independence.
A man who put Scotland first each and every time and has achieved a great deal of good for our country.
Mike on Freeserve. Again utter shecht. The YES campaign NOT A. Salmond stated that if a Yes vote was the outcome a general election would follow in eighteen months and the people of Scotland would have the right to elect a government of their choosing. That said, why let facts get in the way eh

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Choagy says...
"To compare the First Minister to a racist, bigoted clown is an absolute insult to those who support the SNP or voted for independence."
But you're not absolutely insulting those who supported and voted for Ukip?

I'm not one of those, by the way...

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"But you're not absolutely insulting those who supported and voted for Ukip?"
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 I would not condemn or vilify anyone who chose to vote for any party as they are entitled to have their voices heard. The UKIP leadership or figure head on the other hand is a bigoted , loathsome character. He appears  hell bent on creating a xenophobic or racist divide between all sections of society, something the Yes campaign  cannot be accused of.
BTW I will qualify my comments on the Yes campaign by adding the following wee bit 
I have or had been a Labour voter all my adult life and a card carrying member for a helluva long time. Now I see the "Official Opposition" as merely a mirror image of the current administration. Ed Balls reading a script prepared in Conservative Central Office was the last straw for me. How could a "Labour" party stoop so low as to be seen as the lapdogs of a Conservative government I will never fathom.  
Like the Russian dolls folk buy on holiday in Eastern Europe, you take the lid of the Cameron doll and inside Nick Clegg, take the next lid off and there  is Ed Milliband . Three parties separated by the tailors they use or the shoes they wear and absolutely nothing else. There is no "Real" opposition to the current administration  and I became so disenchanted with them, so called Labour, that I saw, and see in the SNP a far better vision of the future whatever guise that may be than the future I see under any of the current crop in Westminster.
Bit mixed up but I hope you get my meaning  

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