Page 3 of The MMR jab has not caused an increase in Autism.

Hand on heart Ogster I still would have let my son have the MMR rather then single dose immunisation.

At the time the research conducted that the MMR appeared much more effective then single dose jabs and it was much less traumatic for the child as it was a one jab rather then several.

I have always based my care for my son on a well researched informed choice, I was very lucky to have access to numerous clinical databases and a few very senior research midwives that helped myself and my ex make of choice.

But nothing is every gonna settle that small voice in your mind that blames the MMR for Conner`s autisium. There are always going to be rare cases and unfortunatly your in the xxx% :(

Hope he is doing well and kicking your butt on the ps3 btw :D

I remember my first jab. I was 2, maybe 3 years old. I dunno if it was polio or maybe chicken pox. Might be smallpox, but I think they stopped doing them back in the seventies. But I digress. My personality changed as well.

I went from a child living in a perfect world, where nothing bad ever happened, to never quite completely trusting my parents again. "It won`t hurt a bit", they said. I couldn`t walk properly for a week. (The jab was in the sole of my foot). I reckon they thought I was introverted and uncommunicative thereafter. I probably was for a month or two.

Just sayin`

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No they don`t want to kill us off and lose all that tax paying potential.
That they want to stick their hooter into everything we think and do, that I`ll believe.

Mi kids have had the MMR and my 16 year old is having the HPV jab after a fuss was raised as to why they were supposed to be left at risk whilst the 13 year olds were protected.

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What offends me as a parent is the beaurocratic stance that `Nanny knows best`. We are offered no choice, and the state does everything it can to severely restrict the available alternatives. There may be sound clinical reasons for administering `cocktail shots`, but in the absence of clear information, it seems reasonable to assume that the driving force is economic.

The only potential clinical benefit that has been offerred is that of synergistic benefits when more than one vaccine is administered at a time. However I am not aware that that has been established beyond doubt.

There are plenty of individual vaccines which have been shown, over a period of many years to be effective and with low, known risks. However these are effectively denied to parents by the beaurocrats.

There is plenty of publicity regarding the loss of herd immunity due to low vaccination rates, yet the solution is so simple.......

The original research regarding MMR and Autism seems to have been dismissed, but exposing poor research doesn`t necessarily disprove the original postulate. The level of anecdotal evidence seems high, and whilst many cases may be due to other causes I would still have lingering concerns.

The establishment refuses to give clear honest information. When my first was due for the jab that includes Pertussis (Whooping cough) I did a fair amount of research as this vaccine has a significant history of related problems. I was fortunate that the local hospital referred me to the local communicable disease expert (I can`t remeber her title). We had a lengthy informative chat, as a result of which I learnt of Acellular Pertussis Vaccine (aTP). Basically aTP had been shown to be as effective as the older whole cell vaccine, but with far fewer short to medium term side-effects. The USA, Canada, Japan and certain Scandanavian countries had standardised on aTP, and in some case had banned the older vaccine. We were advised that aTP would be available to special order so that is what we did, but it was an uphill battle at the surgery who only conceded to our request when I referred to the communicable disease official. In fact the Sister who actually does the shots tried to just give my daughter the standard cocktail but I checked and stopped her. We could then hear her bad-mouthing us in the corridor.

Sorry this is such a diatribe, but I am a concerned parent living in a country which denies informed choice. We have neither the information nor the choice.

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The original research regarding MMR and Autism seems to have been dismissed, but exposing poor research doesn`t necessarily disprove the original postulate

But it was poor research which started the whole MMR v Autism debate!

As a parents we all want to do the best for our children BUT non immunisation isnt necessarily the best option.

All I can say is, having watched more than one child die, because of a disease which was vaccine preventable, I am glad, I am reassured and I feel Ive done the best for my son by having him vaccinated.

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exposing poor research doesn`t necessarily disprove the original postulate.
You`re an alien. I`m basing this on the length of the post you submitted.

Ok, so basing my theory on the size of your post might have been worng, but...
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exposing poor research doesn`t necessarily disprove the original postulate.

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Hand on heart Ogster I still would have let my son have the MMR rather then single dose immunisation.

At the time the research conducted that the MMR appeared much more effective then single dose jabs and it was much less traumatic for the child as it was a one jab rather then several.

it`s my personal expierience that would make me pay for the seperate jabs, as i say, it could be coincidence, i`m not one of these people that are fervently against the MMR, i`m sure it saves many many more lives than it (allegedly) harms, i`m only saying that given the chance, no matter how slim it may or may not be, after my expierience, if i could go back & do it again, it would be seperate jabs.... even if connor then proggressed in exactly the same way regardless of which course i took, it would be grossly wrong of me not to have tried given the chance, even if it made no difference.

& i should also add, both me & my wife where sure it was the jab that caused his "reaction" (simply due to the fact he was affected imediately after the jab, again, i don`t dismiss the fact it could be coincidence) but it was about 6 months AFTER his diagnosis that we heard about all the stink around the MMR, so i can say in complete that we waren`t swayed one way or the other with the controversy, as in our minds we where allready sure what had caused it.

One hopes one is taking the proverbial with some of those comments. Although you may not read this as you`re probably holed up in a bunker somewhere with a stockpile of pot noodles and machine guns.

How did you know I was stockpiling pot noodle in my basement, have you a camera on me? :D

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How did you know I was stockpiling pot noodle in my basement, have you a camera on me?
Don`t be daft, that`d be impractical. All pot noodles have GPS trackers built in to the dried polysterene vegetables.

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As a parents we all want to do the best for our children BUT non immunisation isnt necessarily the best option.
I agree 100% but why is there such obstinate refusal to allow single shots? The authorities blindly persist on their chosen course, the effect of which is to deny children the protection which would otherwise be available.

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All I can say is, having watched more than one child die, because of a disease which was vaccine preventable
Which leads to the question "How many of those children would have been vaccinated if single shots had not been denied?"

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